it was supposed to be a million muppet march to protest obama's proposal to cut. nine puppets got sick . puppiets are represented there as well the silliness aside. it is disturbing that this is a big focal point of the debate when we are really talking about reigning in the growth of government? >> guest: this happened in 1995. any time you mention pbs they try big bird. the actor who plays big bird gets $317,000 for being inside of the bird seat. sesame street company makes revenue and six percent comes from the government. it is so important to liberals. national public radio get ace million and don't they call it national taxpayer's radio. these nusions will all survive. no one talked about closing them. they will all survive because people want them to survive. the idea of borrowing money from the chinese to give to big bird is absurd . it is like watching the fiasco you are seeing in new jersey and new york. this is the second major crisis with the department of homeland security failed abysmally. it needs to be overhalled because it is incapable. >> neil: w